tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post3004431460766491324..comments2024-03-27T00:16:13.898-07:00Comments on STUFF CHRISTIAN CULTURE LIKES: #82 Not Environmentalismstephyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10047873385595074389noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-49678512532898590342017-12-28T02:59:49.449-08:002017-12-28T02:59:49.449-08:00will visit again for camera motorcycle helmet came...will visit again for camera <a href="http://zonetop10.com/top-10-best-motorcycle-helmet-cameras/" rel="nofollow">motorcycle helmet camera</a>Suraj Sonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15450374602127425648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-5148508585644628982016-06-22T23:49:37.907-07:002016-06-22T23:49:37.907-07:00It is Very nice post. I just stumbled upon your we...It is Very nice post. I just stumbled upon your weblog and wished to say that I have truly enjoyed surfing around your blog posts.<a href="http://www.micahome.org" rel="nofollow">Mica Home</a> | <br><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08472391598664862503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-75890014738608052872016-06-18T04:04:19.953-07:002016-06-18T04:04:19.953-07:00Hi there, its pleasant article about media print, ...Hi there, its pleasant article about media print, we all understand media is a fantastic source of information.<a href="http://www.selecttoursinc.com" rel="nofollow">Select Tours Inc</a> | <br><br />Briley Celiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09358663071421609392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-4087646364986610472016-06-05T22:58:42.469-07:002016-06-05T22:58:42.469-07:00It was a positive conversation and each day since ...It was a positive conversation and each day since then he has made an effort to come and speak to her about his success of the day. <a href="http://www.cardiohealthtest.net" rel="nofollow">cardiohealthtest.net</a> | <br><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529126760766047402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-36175217938063914662011-11-02T10:32:31.452-07:002011-11-02T10:32:31.452-07:00When I talk to people about this, I say "Imag...When I talk to people about this, I say "Imagine if somebody created a beautiful house for you to live in, and it will even provide all of your needs. Would you then decide to shit in the corner of the dining room and pile up garbage in the living room?"Lennybnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-33222138714969664022009-10-25T20:04:24.121-07:002009-10-25T20:04:24.121-07:00Christian here, who loves God's green earth (a...Christian here, who loves God's green earth (and keeping it clean) as well as Al Gore).Zion Birdiehttp://zionmystic.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-85798555053556322032009-09-09T19:36:44.793-07:002009-09-09T19:36:44.793-07:00not fair. i honestly recycle, conserve energy, reu...not fair. i honestly recycle, conserve energy, reuse whenever i can. and more than my non-christan counterparts. i've encountered more iraqi oil drinking SUVs owned by democrats and non-christians with kerry and obama bumper stickers than people who call themselves christians. funny post, unfair speculation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-49962531413320140142009-09-08T15:08:38.774-07:002009-09-08T15:08:38.774-07:00Humans do tend to be a little sanguine on the insi...Humans do tend to be a little sanguine on the inside :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-84792901787266818352009-09-02T07:29:13.262-07:002009-09-02T07:29:13.262-07:00You environmentalists are all the same. Green on t...You environmentalists are all the same. Green on the outside, red on the inside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-32097525675226586592009-09-01T19:37:06.839-07:002009-09-01T19:37:06.839-07:00I grew up in a Republican household and used to vo...I grew up in a Republican household and used to vote Republican, and I fail to understand how people who advocate conservatism in all other aspects are so wildly reckless in their approach to the environment.<br /><br />If any one issue defines the stupidity of the party it's this. Despite overwhelming evidence of environmental change they won't even acknowledge that we ought to exercise some caution. That they're too stupid to see the contradiction in their stated beliefs only confirms my opinions of what the party's become.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-79469026953833813582009-09-01T11:45:11.522-07:002009-09-01T11:45:11.522-07:00Jamie,
I feel exactly the same... people often do...Jamie,<br /><br />I feel exactly the same... people often don't think through the production of something and how much energy it takes. Using, producing, or building too much of anything is bad -- it doesn't matter what materials are used, it all takes energy.<br />I hate that it's a 'fashion trend' to be green, as I don't believe it's making people more conscious of their impact on the environment -- it is only helping alleviate the guilt associated with using a certain type of material. <br />That being said, I don't really have a solution. Use less, buy less (to throw away less) and stop reproducing...(JK about that last one, but sometimes I do feel that would be the only solution!)Gaellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14998480841315829489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-77899737144338622882009-09-01T09:41:17.360-07:002009-09-01T09:41:17.360-07:00June 24, 1974 to be specific. More than 35 years ...June 24, 1974 to be specific. More than 35 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-60598648158285054822009-09-01T09:39:56.723-07:002009-09-01T09:39:56.723-07:00**** Ten or so years or so ago I remember a Time a...**** Ten or so years or so ago I remember a Time article stating that we were headed into another ice age... ***<br /><br />You remember no such thing. The article in question was from the 1970's. Look it up. Furthermore, a single article in Time represents NOTHING like the overwhelming scientific consensus that exists now. This comparison is nothing but propaganda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-46127260383796899882009-07-23T19:33:09.428-07:002009-07-23T19:33:09.428-07:00Just so everyone knows, I am a conservative christ...Just so everyone knows, I am a conservative christian that grew up in the south (Steph was one of my best friends). I recycle anything remotely recyclable, I try to make good energy choices, I am often called a closet tree hugger by my other conservative friends (to which I point out the word conservative/conserve relationship), I just passed the LEED certification test for green building. <br /><br />Here are some of my problems with the "green" movement. Under the "You think your helping the environment by" category:<br /><br />1. Driving a Prius. Any and all cars are terrible for the environment. The amount of embodied energy within any car far outweighs the environmental benefits. There once was an essay/book that showed that a H2 was actually better for the environment than a Prius (it should be noted that the way that magnesium for the batteries is now mined differently so it may no longer be the case). That being said, my next car will be a hybrid.<br /><br />This also goes for electric cars. Where does electricity come from? Mostly coal.<br /><br />2. Using reusable shopping bags. A vast majority are made in China. Thus the energy it takes to ship to the US is equivalent to thousands and thousands of plastic bags.<br /><br />3. Using photovoltaic (PV) energy. The typical life of a PV panel is around 25 years. It typically takes 15 to 25 years to recoup just the embodied energy used to make the PV panel. Again, technology is progressing and they are getting more and more efficient so my stats may be a little out of date. However, if I were to build a new home, I would put PV panels on it, but I know I am not saving the environment with my PV power, just saving some energy costs.<br /><br />4. Buying Apple Aluminum MacBooks. The new apple macbooks are touted as the "greenest" with its new aluminum chassis. Do you know how much energy it takes to create aluminum!?!?!?!?<br /><br />5. Building Green. In my own industry building green is all the rage. There is nothing worse for the environment than building things, I don't care how freaking green the end product is, it's still bad.<br /><br />6. Buying Organic. Any food takes lots and lots of energy to produce in any substantial quantity and even more energy to get that food to your table. You might be saving the soil from pesticides, but you are doing the earth no favors. <br /><br />I could go on and on...but I think (hope) that I am getting my point across.<br /><br />Ten or so years or so ago I remember a Time article stating that we were headed into another ice age...which may be the case ten years from now. I don't think anyone really knows. <br /><br />I just don't think most people realize how radically our lives would all have to change to be beneficial to the environment. All we can really do is try to lessen our impact. Its like the sale advert that states how much money I will save. I am not saving any, only spending less.Jamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-44132162368518792009-07-22T15:00:30.847-07:002009-07-22T15:00:30.847-07:00California Evangelicals are not immune from this p...California Evangelicals are not immune from this phenomena. I am perpetually labeled as a "tree hugger" because I gladly will pay taxes to fund parks and I recycle. And when I ask them why they don't recycle (which is insanely easy to do in California, especially where I'm from, compared to NYC where I live now) they mutter something to the effect of they don't want to be an dang environmentalist. Yes, dang. Or stupid. Either works. When will they realize that recycling is about conserving resources, not singing songs about Mother Earth?Danihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01743494720356774927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-14192497702415734652009-07-19T14:27:07.945-07:002009-07-19T14:27:07.945-07:00I am not actually saying that killing an animal is...I am not actually saying that killing an animal is equal to killing a human, but I wanted to explore the reasons why we draw this dichotomy. Even if the cause of death for animals is passive (i.e., pollution), it's still a form of killing. The result is the same. Christians regularly tout the verse about God caring for the sparrow's fall, but people do not follow that example.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739577097745566140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-31986352505793588062009-07-19T12:59:18.454-07:002009-07-19T12:59:18.454-07:00Actually, no, the polar bear is not in "immin...Actually, no, the polar bear is <i>not</i> in "imminent" danger of extinction. But don't take my word for it. Jeffrey Hutchings, director of the Committee on the Status of Endangered Wildlife in Canada, declared last year, regarding a recent study: "Based on the best available information at hand, there was insufficient reason to believe that it is at imminent danger of extinction."<br /><br />But even if polar bears <i>were</i> in imminent danger of extinction, you simply can't compare the active killing of a human being, on the one hand, to the decline of an animal population due to environmental factors that may or may not be within our power to control, on the other hand. (And by "our", I mean the entire human race; climates around the planet are affected by human activity, yes, but also by fluctuations in solar activity, etc.) In the former case, the moral agency is very clear, on multiple levels; but in the latter case, not so much.<br /><br />And of course, it is very possible to believe that humans are "superior" to other aspects of creation -- since we are made in God's image and all that -- while also believing that we are obliged to take good care of the environment. There is no simple either-or here. Indeed, it is only <i>because</i> we believe that we are above all other lifeforms that we can even think of taking this responsibility upon ourselves. Certainly no other creature is bothering to do so.Peter T Chattawayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07395937367596387523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-83489574844435206412009-07-19T12:37:40.119-07:002009-07-19T12:37:40.119-07:00Stephy, this post was spot on. I found your site t...Stephy, this post was spot on. I found your site through the GraphJams website and have been enjoying it ever since. I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home and can relate to all of this, especially the anti-environmentalist stance. Fundies are desperate to assert the superiority of humans over animals, plants, and the earth in general. Part of it, I think, is linked to the pro-life stance. People whinge about campaigns to save the polar bears because "why is a polar bear more important than an aborted fetus?" Easy answer: Humans are not in imminent danger of extinction. These animals are.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739577097745566140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-75425585236700411612009-07-14T18:50:51.940-07:002009-07-14T18:50:51.940-07:00Is that Hummer picture in Maryland? Because I defi...Is that Hummer picture in Maryland? Because I definately saw an H2 the other day with this EXACT bumper sticker. Might have been the best day of my life.Katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-79572641873175058742009-06-30T18:58:53.802-07:002009-06-30T18:58:53.802-07:00Eh, I've read some more recent evangelicals wh...Eh, I've read some more recent evangelicals who are getting into the whole "taking care of God's creation" thing, but they might be a fringe group.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230149084752831115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-39510487755966385492009-06-27T19:21:38.491-07:002009-06-27T19:21:38.491-07:00Hahaha!
you hit the nail on the head with this on...Hahaha!<br /><br />you hit the nail on the head with this one! are you sure you haven't met my entire family? i love being the black sheep who recycles.Meagannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-70243925921553567662009-06-26T12:32:32.154-07:002009-06-26T12:32:32.154-07:00Can I offer a breath of hope?
Check out Renewal ...Can I offer a breath of hope? <br /> Check out Renewal students caring for creation (a movement amongst Christian university students in Canada and the U.S. to promote leadership in environmental stewardship.) <br />Or check out A Rocha an international Christian Conservation organization. <br /> As an Environmental Scientist I have occasionally come across anti-environmental attitudes amongst Christians. But more recently I have noticed a huge change!ShariAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14034753274941791827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-17735295762555810102009-06-10T06:54:18.992-07:002009-06-10T06:54:18.992-07:00I disagree. I'm a conservative Christian who ...I disagree. I'm a conservative Christian who thinks that Al Gore is an idiot. However, my family recycles, conserves water, does not make unnecessary trips to conserve fuel, I don't dump chemicals into drainage and I do my part to conserve energy. Oddly enough, I find your blog humorous; a good read. However, I think you are stretching a bit on this one.Billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04352544032899408334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-35177397763358248712009-06-01T13:38:05.053-07:002009-06-01T13:38:05.053-07:00God Bless Al Gore.
Recycling...
The Christian Cul...God Bless Al Gore.<br /><br />Recycling...<br />The Christian Culture I grew up in was in MI, home of the ten cent deposit on pop. (NOT soda, NOT Coke, ...POP.) So everybody I knew returned their cans to the store to get their deposit back, my brothers would walk up & down the street looking for cans, in case anyone was stupid enough to throw away a whole dime.<br /><br />Other than that, there wasn't any way to recycle! Not only were there not separate trash/recycling bins, there were no bins, and no trash pick-up. Everyone in my town, regardless of their religious affiliation, burned their garbage in barrels in their backyard. <br />We've come a long way, baby.<br /><br />The SUV thing...<br />Like I said- I grew up in Michigan, the Land of Refusal to Change Even Up Until the Last U.S. Carmaker is Bankrupt.<br />(I'm a Prius drivin' Californian now.)Amynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7776387418775994830.post-16510913793343075372009-05-25T22:51:00.563-07:002009-05-25T22:51:00.563-07:00WHOA COMMENTS.
Yeah...it's hard. I usually just ...WHOA COMMENTS.<br /><br />Yeah...it's hard. I usually just use their lingo and say the word "stewardship." Then, in the name of tolerance (after all, jesus kicked it with prostitutes and theives), they will give me that.candacemorrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13893739347394561554noreply@blogger.com